:smt031:happy5: From my experience there seems to be 2 kinds of ripping: there is the consentual ripping for fun, and then there is the more competitive ripping which usually involves high octane aggression! This is most certainly in the former category. Quite what the purpose or motive is seems a little unclear.:smt086

I know what my intentions would be but it's better that I don't advertise them here.:thefinger::smt119